New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

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New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby artgod » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:06 pm

Hello WMASA, New Guy here to the Forum, Glad to find you all.

I'm restoring a 1980 50cc Vespa Special and I'm getting frustrated with trying to get a spark. I know its not my coil - tested and it's good - I have points and a new condenser on the way from scootermercato.com hopefully that will do the trick.

Anyway looking ahead when I have to work on the timing is there anyone in my area that I can travel to with my engine to help me out get this thing running again?

I work on Old Town Alexandria and live in Montclair. It would be very cool to find other people that I can actually hang out with in my area that love Vespas.

Cheers - Tj
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Re: New F'n Guy in Monclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby Zeets » Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:13 pm

Modern Classics in DC does a lot of vintage work.
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Re: New F'n Guy in Monclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby dirtyhandslopez » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:43 pm

Hello F'n new guy :)
I know Richmond is a little south, but it may be quicker to get here than to drive into DC...Labor rate is 45$ an hour. Fully Piaggio certified to work on vintage Vespa's and the ET 2's and 4's.
Are you getting a spark from the hot wire from the stator(going to be a red or green wire). If so, disconnect the rest of your wiring loom from the ignition circuit and run a jumper wire straight from the hot ignition wire from the stator(going to be green or red) directly to the coil. Tighten plug wire to coil, remove plug cap and see if you get a spark when holding the plug wire 1/8" from the engine case. If yes, then fit plug cap and new plug and try again. If still yes, re-conect wiring loom to ignition circuit and try again. If now no spark, you have a problem in the loom/switch/kill button.
If no spark from hot wire on stator(primary ignition circuit, red or green) you have a problem in the stator.
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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby artgod » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:03 pm

Thanks for the advice and detailed troubleshoot dirtyhands.

I'll replace the parts and try the new condenser and points first.. if I start pulling my hair out then I'll take a trip to Richmond, hell my sister lives down there, at least I can get dinner.

dirtyhandslopez wrote:Hello F'n new guy :)


AND HEY! it's New F'n Guy... Sheesh!

Thanks again - TJ
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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby dcunited4life » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:53 am

Lopez is working majic on my bike right now so I can testify that he'll get you straight. Also, I know he is quite dirty although last time I was at his shop he seems to be cleaning his act up. :P

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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby dirtyhandslopez » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:21 pm

Dirty on the outside, clean on the inside :).
Yep, you can still see the floor and the tops of the workbenches, at least for now till it gets about 20* more warmer and everybody want their scoots all at the same time :roll:.
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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby Mikeh » Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:30 pm

Or there's always ellicott city to the north up here in MD... I'm pretty sure I could sort you out too. But I prefer to work on large frame vespas. But points is points.

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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby artgod » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:28 pm

Well shit..... Installed the new points and a new condenser ... Still no spark. I adjusted the points gap (I don't have a feeler gauge) a couple differ times still nada.

I know that some of you guys work for payment to work on these engines, my fun money has dried up for this project.... anyone out there work for beer?

I swear to god at this point if I see this thing spark I might fall over backwards.

Thanks - Tj
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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby Mikeh » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:50 pm

It's probably somehting super simple like the points are grounded without the plastic or cardboard shims in the right place.

If you can haul it up to ellicott city I could help you out.. I like teaching people how to fix these things. Just replenish shop supplies and parts and we're good.

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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby artgod » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:12 pm

Mike, thank you so much, and defiantly anything that it needs I'll replace. Not a problem, and what style of beer do you like.

When are you available? During the week? Weekends?

Thanks again.

Tj
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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby Mikeh » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:02 pm

My schedule is a little tight right now. For a small thing like this I am pretty sure we could get it worked out in a few hours. So a week night may be best. But this week is bad. Maybe next week. Say like tuesday or wednesday may be good. If you could get to my place by about 7:30pm that would be ideal. Email me at;

heytens at Yah00 dot com.

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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby artgod » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:14 pm

Wanted to give a public thank you to Mike. He not only got a spark on my scoot but rewired the whole thing correctly, fired it up and and even did the timing.Thanks Mike for the time and the knowledge you gave me without asking for anything in return.

You're a Vespa Ninja!

Tj
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Re: New F'n Guy in Montclair VA... Needs some help.

Postby dirtyhandslopez » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:23 pm

Good job. Nice one Mike. Now go and thrash the ship out of it :)
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